The Acts of the Apostles, which was Luke’s continuing story after his Gospel, records several notable stories of women prophets,[1] a woman teaching,[2] a woman as a wealthy benefactor and host of a church,[3] and a woman named as a disciple.[4] The book of Acts records Peter turning to Joel’s prophecy[5] to explain why all these women were publicly preaching and proclaiming the Gospel in other languages. He said

“In the last days it will be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy … Even upon my slaves, both men and women, in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.”

Acts 2:17, 18 (NRSVUE)

But John’s Gospel provides the most dramatic support for including women disciples in the Gospel narrative. By aligning twelve calling elements in Jesus’s calling of five men at the beginning of John’s Gospel, then repeating those same twelve calling elements in Jesus’s calling of the Samaritan woman and then, at the end of the Gospel, Jesus’ calling of Mary of Magdala, John was depicting Jesus’s removal of patriarchal privilege from discipleship and apostleship with him.

In fact, in John’s Gospel, Jesus saves much of his deepest teaching and boldest declarations for women:

  • his first sign of water into wine at the prompting of his mother Mary[6]
  • his first pronouncement as the prophesied Messiah to the woman at the well[7]
  • his revelation concerning the resurrection to Martha, by the grave of her brother Lazarus[8]
  • his defense of Mary of Bethany whose prophetic anointing of him prepared him for the cross[9]
  • his own resurrection first made manifest to Mary of Magdala.[10]

In the stories of two of these women—the woman at the well and Mary of Magdala—John indicates Jesus’s intent to fully include these women as both disciples and apostles.

Jesus appears to women | between 1886 and 1894, James Tissot, Brooklyn Museum

Below is the second video in this four-part series on Jesus’s call on women to discipleship and apostolic ministry. The first video is called Did Jesus Call Women to Be Disciples?

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[1] Phillip’s four unnamed daughters, Acts 21:9.

[2] Priscilla, named before her husband Aquilla, Acts 18:24-26.

[3] Lydia, Acts 16:14-15.

[4] “Now in Joppa there was a disciple whose name was Tabitha, which in Greek is Dorcas.” Acts 9:36.

[5] “I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh,

    and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,

. . . both men and women,

    in those days I will pour out my Spirit;

        and they shall prophesy.”

Peter quoting Joel 2:28-29 in Acts 2:16-18, NRSV (italics mine).

[6] John 2:1-12.

[7] John 4:4-42.

[8] John 11:1-27.

[9] John 12:1-8.

[10] John 20:1-18.

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  1. The problem with this concept of an equal partnership of discipleship among men and women is the clear fact that God could have and would have simply had Jesus set that arrangement in motion when he was on earth by choosing a few good women or say even 6 as Apostles among the 12 with no room for ambiguity. There was no equal employment opportunity or affirmative action man-made regulatory organizations or other such legalistic venues at the time, thank God; but now we have feminists and many such organizations like the ACLU or Southern Poverty Law Center with many others, all of them atheistic, that would love nothing more than to turn everything upside-down and rearrange what God ordained from day one!

    But yet these arguments obviously fly in the face of common sense, because why is it that Protestants along with many other Christian denominations here in America which in total we have about 2000 of them domestically and globally near 45,000; most of which adamantly reject that the mother of Jesus Christ was a holy virgin chosen by God to be the Blessed Holy Mary Mother of Jesus Christ the Son of God, and who from then on would have a special place in God’s divine plan to save humanity from damnation! I’ve had Protestants tell me to my face Catholics are a false faith, and that their giving any importance to Mary is wicked, because the Scriptures point out that she was just a woman, so they give “zero” reverence to Mary the Mother of Jesus Christ! But we now should give elevated reference to simple women of the past that weren’t Apostles or “key figures” in God’s plan; I don’t buy any of the “anti-patriarchal agenda” of the “feminists, communists or the outright rabble-rouse Left!” All of them are radicals who insist on tearing apart the “well-established foundations” and traditions of the past throughout history that “God ordained and created,” so that they can now serve their own man-made plans or purposes while “twisting and using Jesus;” with the likes of things such as gender neutral, transgender and “all manner of radicalized concepts of what mankind is or what a family should be!”

    No, this is all more of the global push to “destabilize and ruin” what “God intended” and moving forward to then open the door to much worse, as in “the rule of the antichrist” on earth! Look at many universities and the leftist atheist (communist) ilk therein that promote all sorts of “insane radical concepts” upon the younger generations; all “in the name of inclusion, diversity and equity!” The train is “running off the rails” as the saying goes, and it’s going to be “more of a disaster than it already is in short order as the blasphemies mushroom out of control!”

    But now I sadly say that the polar opposite to the beauty of God’s truth, is the stark reality of “a world gone mad,” with “deceptions and horrid sin running rampant” around the globe.

    In today’s modern world we see “rebellion” on many fronts against the “basic fundamental condition” or tenets, where at times some women try to be the same as men or even visa-versa in all areas of human behavior, performance and capabilities. Do we see in the animal kingdom this feuding or opposition between the sexes? No we do not, and that would be counterproductive to the species, but, some humans try to have it their “own way” much too often and try to second guess or outsmart God; while some now even totally reject Him saying He is a folktale or worse. I say this is obviously, work of the Devil, who wants disarray and rebellion against God by the very part of creation that God made “His centerpiece!” So now we see radical attitudes and ideas being promulgated or even foisted and pushed to the hilt with things like “transgenderism and gender reassignment” gone wild throughout! To me that there is even such a debate or “contradictions of basic truths” going on that have served Mankind well throughout the ages; is indicative of the fact that we must surely be in “End Time” or in any event the Season to fulfill it, according to Bible Prophesy or the Word of God!

    I truly don’t think for a moment that God intended for men and women to “duel each other to no end” (rabid conflict) in order to eventually destroy each other, which is exactly what is going on these days; surely this is beyond madness and into the realm of the diabolical! I also know that hardcore feminism took off in the early 20th century along with Communism, and they do go “hand-in-hand” being that as I see it, both were inspired and manifested by Satan through men like Karl Marx, who actually was known to worship the father of all lies!

    Now we know with the digital world these ideas, thoughts and desires have exploded throughout the world and through all cultures, people and age groups; quite sadly! This coupled with a very promiscuous culture that revolves around secular materialism and sexuality, while now things like human trafficking are going on rampantly, truly all of it is out of control here in America, so I have to wonder how much more can this go on and will God put up with this absolute perversion, blasphemy and abomination of the purpose and beauty that God originally created for husbands and wives along with genuine family!

    Could this all be a Godsend, a juncture or demarcation point, because it’s absolutely timely and imperative for all human beings to “carefully consider and review all within their own lives,” in order to actually gain a more “proper foothold with the Lord;” while there “is still opportunity” to do it!

    It became so clear over the last few years that this is what is coming, like a freight train running out of control down a mountain with all of its inertia and no brakes or man-made device powerful enough to stop the inevitable destruction that will ensue and result from all of this madness and sinful “Ways of The World” greed, lust for power and a world riddled with corruption! Yet making matters even worse this is happening simultaneously while many human beings are becoming more “sinister and inhuman” by the day; both “figuratively and literally!” We are on “the actual precipice” and “a hair trigger away from total annihilation” yet people like in Noah’s time of the Great Flood are acting like they have “all the time in the world” and are so “wrapped up in triviality or even stupidity!”

    John 3:30-31 “He must increase; I must decrease. 31The One who comes from above is above all. The one who is from the earth belongs to the earth and speaks as one from the earth. The One who comes from heaven is above all.”

    1. I hear what you are saying, brother-in Christ Lawrence, about the great harm that is done in, as you say, the dueling between men and women. This is another aspect of the brokenness of humankind that God prophesied with great sorrow and grief (later revealed in Genesis 6:6) over the woman and the man in Genesis 3:15-19. We still stagger under that heavy load of sin.

      That was not God’s ideal in the Garden of Eden, as we know from Genesis 1:26-29–the lens through which we understand Genesis 2. It is this ideal that Jesus reinstated in John 20 (the last story I will tell in this video series).

      In the first video, I go through the various ways believers understand God’s intention for men and women as men and women, some of which you cover here as well. I believe God’s intent is equality, and that is what the early church practiced until about the 5th century on.

      I agree with you about the false Protestant premise that Mary is like any other woman, and I am angry on your behalf that you’ve been told Catholic Christianity is a false faith. Wherever the Gospel is preached, there also is Christ. You are yourself proud that the Lord honors Catholic faith, for there are few I know as dedicated to Christ as you are.

      It is my understanding that Jesus chose twelve men who became the apostles for one important reason: twelve tribes of Israel, twelve apostles of Christ. There is something important about that, something symbolic. Jesus was reuniting God’s people to go out into the world with the truth about God and about salvation. This was Israel’s big chance to fulfill the mission God had given them at Mount Sinai.

      Jesus’s great commission, in Matthew 28, was given to another symbolic number: The Twelve and also the 120. Ten times twelve. And these were women and men, Mary the mother of Jesus first among the women (which we find out in Acts 1:14).

      I explain where we know from the gospels that there were women disciples who ministered alongside Jesus, and alongside the men disciples. You are right, of course, none of those women were among The Twelve. Still, it is clear there were women disciples who later played leading roles in the formation of the church.

      There is a growing realization among Catholic and Protestant Christians that God has far more in mind for women than we humans have understood for thousands of years. Instead, we were conformed by the culture created by Greek scholars and Roman philosophers who plainly stayed the superiority of men and the inferiority of women, so that men must always be in charge of women, and women must always be the charges of men.

      There is a middle ground of mutuality, where men and women respect each other and work together cooperatively and complementarily, each as they are appointed, anointed, and gifted by the Holy Spirit.

      This is what I see Jesus doing in the Gospel of John.

      Grace and peace to you, brother in the Lord, today and every day, your sister in Christ, Joanne

      1. “There is a middle ground of mutuality, where men and women respect each other and work together cooperatively and complementarily, each as they are appointed, anointed, and gifted by the Holy Spirit.”

        Joanne sister-in-Christ Jesus, that is all well and good, but yet, I see less and less cooperation amongst them as the centuries pass to where now it’s anyone’s guess what order could possibly come from the “fragmentary severely disheveled and defiant” society of today!

        I see God’s prophesy unfolding before our eyes, but, not what He desires of us as His children; rather more of what the Devil has deceived and prodded human kind toward. Of course God and His plan will prevail, but not before things get much uglier and wrong, far beyond what we can imagine! Already in the pipeline beyond “human genome editing” is “trans-humanism” where some will consider morphing human beings into something very special as they think, some big name so called experts on the cutting edge R&D who now have brain chips ready for interfacing the human mind with the cloud; what could possibly go wrong! I speak harshly because we’re not in “a pretend or Sci-Fi movie” it’s really here and happening soon! Is all of this inspired by the Holy Spirit? NOT!

        So my point is we have been in “a very long slow-mo crash disaster in the making” that really got sped up exponentially in the 20th and 21st centuries!

        As far as “the dueling” between men and women doing damage which we can see the results of by just looking around; I actually see the problem as even more of “mankind dueling with itself” which is the next level.

        As I do agree with many of these points you make or illustrate well; “the brokenness of humankind that God prophesied with great sorrow and grief,” and I only add that “things have grown much worse” with the passing of time and the now “more radicalized broken human views of what is broken or how to fix it!” That ditch or (pit) that humans fell into long ago of their own volition just grows deeper and continues to fill with “added putrefaction” the deeper they go, like a “Dante’s Inferno” decent through tighter circles into hell, and eventual oblivion. I mean turn on a television any time of day or look at a multitude of internet sites and see the waste of time pagan, degenerating and even immoral trash being advocated, promoted or pushed upon the society at large, which many are more than willing to accept and slurp up in the name of entertainment or even so called News!

        Indeed as you state, “This was Israel’s big chance to fulfill the mission God had given,” but look where the human race is through the millennia, even after being given such a golden opportunity to straighten out or get right with God; as I see it worse off than if they were ignorant animals running loose, because, with so much intellect, history and capability to be much better off than the wild animals, “the evil keeps building and escalating” over the centuries to where we now see presently “some of the most sinister and demonic plans unfolding” in governments, corporations, elitist inner circles and many other smaller organizations; all with the central theme of “anti-God and totalitarianism of the masses!”

        You see what gets me peeved with all of this is just how “phony and even rotten” human beings have become with their “lip service” or “fancy rhetoric” and “saying one thing and doing another” being “truly two-faced” and “backstabbing” perpetually! For example we had Obama for 8 years and look what he and his entourage did to our Nation under God while the current Biden scam continues in that vein with Congress toeing the line, and there is absolutely no reason for any of it other than the truth being, that humans are a horribly corrupt lot! And I go back to the old standby Scripture that said it plain and simple which now “comes home to roost” and worse now than back then with the ancients!

        Yes I speak pessimistically like this following Scripture, but, I don’t have to look very far to see so much decadence, materialistic idol worship, paganism, violence, stupidity, gluttony and self-centeredness all of which is running or controlling this planet, and it makes me sick!

        The most powerful and rich are the biggest pigs and they look it! I ask where is the improvement over thousands of years? It’s gotten exponentially worse and now evil rears its ugly head in ways never imagined throughout history! “The 2020 Summer of Love” Nationwide Riots and Destruction, was just a hint of what’s to come!

        Romans 3:9-11 “What then? Are we any better? Not at all. For we have already made the charge that Jews and Greeks alike are all under sin. 10As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one. 11There is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. 12All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” 13“Their throats are open graves; their tongues practice deceit.” “The venom of vipers is on their lips.”

        Those lips are giving so much lip service in all strata of society and the net result is the same; nothing but lies, deception and debauchery!

        To hell in a hand-basket for sure!

        We need Jesus Christ to return so badly!

        Respectfully,
        Brother-in-Christ Jesus,
        Lawrence

    1. Sister-in-Christ Jesus. One additional thought to share Joanne. You stated regarding men and women that “God’s intent is equality, and that is what the early church practiced until about the 5th century on.”

      The issue I have straight out with that concept by itself is, “in what way do we speak about this equality?” Off the top they are profoundly different and meant to be! We could discuss that innate difference down to the chromosome level of which there has been deep research and conclusive discussion by the top minds in this science. Or focusing in on just the obvious facts that men for the most part have always been physically bigger and stronger, for good reason I might add, and that was God’s intention! While women have absolutely remarkable physical built-in differences being able to carry and bear another human being, which men have never been able to do nor will they ever!

      I know these factors are academic to most, but yet, today we have the bizarre among us that make arguments that men can have babies or whatever they want to imagine they can do! I say because of the differences I just mentioned above, and there are many others on a psychological as well as emotional level, that the bottom-line is they are not equal, and never will be in this present form, while of course from a spiritual reference that’s another matter entirely.

      Now then, equality of being both human beings male and female born with those “inalienable rights” that our forefathers spoke to, I absolutely agree that all men and all women are equally endowed and should be, as “that is God’s will!” But I do get frustrated with many people who run hog-wild with some pointless arguments about women should be totally equal to men in all regards when that is impossible, and I’ve mentioned in previous commentary that rather than attacking each other over these differences and inequalities which are obvious, that all people should “face the facts” and admit that “together men and women do complement each other,” and each brings not just physical attributes to say protect, or bear children, to the fore; but they can have a synergistic relationship where together they are each at their best, each doing the things they can do better or only can do over each other which is what God intended; making the combination of the two the best possible outcome, as individually they would never achieve such a plateau!

      I just was hoping to make it clear what I really see going on with people in this regard. Far too much confusion, and to be blunt, stupidity!

      1. Yes, brother-in-the-Lord, Lawrence, you are certainly right in saying that male and female are not alike in “kind,” for certainly the female body is designed to bear children, and the male body is statistically larger and more powerful. Female bodies, statistically, can stay under water longer and go deeper under water than male bodies can, but male bodies, statistically, can lift heavier objects and overall can do more powerful physical feats.

        And you are right in saying male and female are equal before God, and can be used of God in whatever way God pleases, which may (and certainly have done), I am adding, go counter to our human traditions or customs. Famous women saints have proven this truth.

        In the early church, wealth women who were head of their households hosted churches in their homes (Lydia is the most famous example), which means they also presided over what we today call the Lord’s Supper, as was the ancient custom for heads of households to preside over every meal. There are ancient sarcophagi that show women in symbolic poses that indicate they gave the blessing, they were scholars of the word, and they taught (“Crispina and Her Sisters” is my source material). Ancient inscriptions name women as ministers of the church.

        We know from the Bible there were a good number of women who were prophets, and who must have prophesied during worship meetings. To prophesy is to speak the word of the Lord to the congregation.

        Though we know their were women disciples, one women in the Bible is named as a disciple (Tabitha), with all that goes with that title. Her gathering of widows into her home may be the earliest record of monastic living.

        In the first two or three centuries of the church, believers took seriously Jesus’s word that in eternity we shall be like the angels, without marriage. Many made a commitment to celibacy in order to begin living into that future state. A complaint (of horror) from nonChristians of that day is that the men and women spoke to each other and gathered with each other as if they were all equals. Well, the early church could do that because they saw each other as equally “sons” of Almighty God, as Paul had said (Romans 8:17 and Galatians 3:28).

        In the middle ground of mutuality, between the extremes of male-rule and female-rule, we find God’s ideal, returned to us by the Lord Jesus on the day of His resurrection.

        Grace and peace to you, from the Lord and from me

      2. Yes Joanne, sister in the Lord Jesus Christ! I appreciated this fine overview you present here of the rise and fall of societal norms or in essence the balance or harmony and benevolent order that is of God even in Ancient times! But then I see we both have pointed out the same thing, in that, extremes are the cause of most if not all of the unrest in societies as even back then in ancient times and now today, the extremists (radicals) always throw a “monkey wrench” into the “achievable balance.” As for example the now “fake climate crisis” has created an actual “global food and energy crisis” that is going to kill off millions to perhaps billions of God’s children, all of it completely unnecessarily, but that balance or harmony I mention is being tossed aside for a minority crazy viewpoint (radicals) so the fragile real balance we as mere children of God can attain in this imperfect temporary physical state that we must live in until God makes its otherwise! Until the time, “we become like the angels with no marriage and the like,” with the “culmination of His plan for this world” when it enters the new world and is part of His heavenly kingdom again, maybe we can say the reverse of the “Big Bang.” As Scripture tells us “in the twinkling of an eye” God can and will transform all things in accordance with His divine purposes!

        But I say we best use what we have to work with and the opportunities to do God’s will to the very best of our abilities, collectively and individually, “if we know what’s good for us,” because there is no man-made way to eternal life and we best “serve the Master” and put any notions of “transitions, or engineered lifestyles” aside and kick them into the dust! As I have learned through my own personalized school of hard knocks it comes down to “facing reality and the facts” before us! Too often any of us can come up with or concoct some notion or idea that we think will fly and do us more good than “staying inline” or on track with the “tried tested and proven traditional narrow path” that does work, even if not perfect or as easy and pleasant at all times that we would like, it is “the right way!”

        “We know from the Bible there were a good number of women who were prophets, and who must have prophesied during worship meetings.”

        Perhaps, and again I point out that just because there was a smidgen of “female dominance” during a certain period as compared to the bulk of history, lest we forget such a female without here royal entourage or army of protectors she would be nothing but chopped liver! Because these are basically aberrations in the long haul, so does not mean that we should suddenly put the majority aside or put asunder “the mainstay” for a single conclave or even cult! Which by the way is exactly what the American society and government have done over the last few decades, and especially the last few years in earnest, for which we are suffering severely the consequences of such foolish behavior and thinking. Back in “ancient times” there were many more women who practiced the “dark arts or witchcraft” than men, which has absolutely taken off exponentially in today’s whacked-out feminist driven, now extremely pagan not Christian rooted culture, which is flowing over the top of the society like a tsunami, and into all facets of society; making for a very disturbed and dangerous situation.

        Just a side note; when and if the human race is transformed to “living under water” I for one will prefer that women do all the ruling, as mermaids are much nicer to have around down deep in the ocean than tough guys, and mermaids have their “alluring powers” that can conquer as well as hold just about anyone “spell bound!” Yes I try to lighten up the “harsh reality” that I tend to think about too much or at least more than most people around me these days! The Super Bowl meant nothing to me and won’t ever, but, try and tell all the guys or even many of the gals around here that I’m right if you want an argument or even a fight on your hands; here is when the mermaids or in a sense the “angels” come into play!

        And thus we see how easy it is to run off the rails and into myth!

        God bless you and yours,
        Brother-in-Christ Jesus,
        Lawrence

        PS I’m considering sending a comment made elsewhere that isn’t precisely on topic but actually is as or more important to the crux of the matter, it has previous writings and links to full articles so I’ll look it over and think hard!

  2. Sister Joanne-in-Christ Jesus,
    Something interesting came to my attention today which was an episode from a famous TV show from back in “The best of television days.”

    I really enjoy these older programs, so I search now and then or just happen to tune in at the right moment like I did today, and find such finer fare for my viewing than the typical dribble of today! This was fun to watch, but it also covered some territory that came up in my previous comments regarding “Feminism” or going beyond the typical norms, even breaking that glass ceiling perhaps when it comes to the battle between men and women which I stated got out of hand in the early 1900’s! Well this story is a true one and was not just very entertaining, but also educational, as it proves I was off a bit on when this tension between men and women got going or heated up! And this Lady Pauline was quite a lady, as well as “one tough cookie” as they say, with a good heart! She was given commendation by even President Abraham Lincoln who has always been one of my all-time favorite iconic historical persons!!! Go figure is someone giving me a kick or something? Sorry Honest Abe if I spoke out of turn!

    Sister, I am so moved by what happened it really warms my heart and brings a tear to my eyes because after watching this old TV episode I plugged in Abraham Lincoln to do a search of my Word Press files and “lo and behold” right at the top of the listings was this first and then third suggestions, and when I read them again I found much to contemplate, such beautiful Scriptures as well, that I pointed out in these writings.
    I know you are way too busy, but at least for now if you have this put aside maybe when there is a bit of time down the road to review them, and of course that TV story about Pauline which I’m sure you will enjoy; any thoughts would be greatly appreciated! I mean it when I say, I’m not anticipating any of this anytime soon, so whenever is wonderful!

    http://lawrencemorra.com/2022/09/08/divine-providence-and-gods-will-2/

    http://lawrencemorra.com/2021/11/28/before-thanksgiving-fades-into-memory-hear-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln/

    Thank you.
    God bless you and yours.
    Brother-in-Christ Jesus,
    Lawrence

    The Wooing of Perilous Pauline
    “Considered the most beautiful heroine of the Old West”

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    “Pauline Cushman (born Harriet Wood, 1833-1893) was an American actress and a spy for the Union Army during the American Civil War; she is considered one of the most successful Civil War spies. She was awarded the rank of brevet major by General James A. Garfield, and made an honorary major by President Abraham Lincoln and became known as “Miss Major Pauline Cushman.

    In 1879, she met Jere Fryer and moved to Casa Grande, Arizona Territory, where they married (her third husband) and operated a hotel and livery stable. Jere Fryer became the sheriff of Pinal County. Their adopted daughter, Emma, died on 17 Apr 1888 of a seizure at 6 years old. As a result, the Fryers separated in 1890.

    During her final years, Pauline lived in poverty and was disabled due to rheumatism and arthritis. She developed an addiction to pain medication and overdosed on morphine on 2 Dec 1893.”
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0556903/

      1. Hey there Sister Joanne! What a great unexpected notice to find here just now and to hear you are smiling; yet I somehow figured you would like the information that coalesced for me today! I wasn’t going to get back online tonight but had a sudden interest to find out about that actress Paula who played the part of “Perilous Pauline,” who had really captured my attention both as the real life character she portrayed and who she was in the Hollywood scene! You know I also had my own interest years back there which I wrote an essay about; so this had me wondering exactly where she was from and what propelled or motivated her to be an actress!
        Turns out she was originally born and raised in San Francisco, but she had some very tough breaks along the way! She was a very impressive person and strong woman in her time maybe like the “Famous Pauline” in character and virtue! I was sad to read how she had a very bad auto accident on Sunset Boulevard which I also traveled many a time. She had some severe facial damage requiring extensive plastic surgery for over a year.
        She had married Floyd Leroy Patterson in 1944 with whom she had a daughter Raeme Dorene Patterson. She sadly passed away back in 1993 and I figure that with some of the accidents Paula went through it seems pretty obvious it was no cake walk for that Hollywood star by any means! She stated once how she didn’t want to be a “glamour actress” and later in life she enrolled at USC and spent lots of time in higher education which she said was the best therapy for her!

        I’ve only made a cursory review about some of her history but I do want to find out more and I bet I would have really liked that woman as a Christian sister/friend! It was also interesting how one other fact jumped off the page I checked on Wikipedia, in her bio there was a mention that she was a Catholic. Paula Raymond in 1984 broke both hips and 1994 broke a shoulder.
        I haven’t read extensively yet about Pauline Cushman either, but, did already find out how she had a tough time also later in life with that rheumatism and then morphine addition! Seems like Pauline and Paula had some similar makeup and challenges as women! It comes to mind here how I probably never could have been a nurse even though the concept of helping others being or getting well is so beautiful; because I end up feeling so bad about some people going through the suffering they do, it really upsets me too much, though in my own family tree several immediate family and relatives have been involved in the medical professions as care givers, PA’s, nurses! I say God bless the people who work in that field because it’s a tough job as I see it, and I’ve had physically demanding jobs with long hours and even very dangerous one’s, but, I wouldn’t be up to doing what they do! My point here is they are women and I praise their ability and strength to do those things so well; God bless them all! Somehow though, I do well helping wildlife and my own pets over the years.

        Well I go on too long with busy persons such as yourself, and I appreciate the consideration; but one more thing I must say, I’m very happy this helped make your day!
        Carry on in the same way is all we can pray for in this regard and that is my hope!
        God’s grace and peace to you sister, Joanne!

        Brother-in-Christ Jesus,
        Lawrence

  3. Sorry but I just remembered I said how I would consider sending another link earlier, and so seeing as I just sent you all of that, here is just one other link that came up today in my commentaries from past writings. There were a few other links and some excerpts but I figure I should quit while I’m ahead with all of these long comments! I hope I’ve actually shared the most important information to do some good.
    Thank you for all your consideration!
    God bless!

    https://lawrencemorra.com/2022/08/17/why-are-we-here-is-it-worth-being-born-2/

  4. Sister Joanne-in-Christ Jesus,
    Something interesting came to my attention today which was an episode from a famous TV show from back in “The best of television days.”

    I really enjoy these older programs, so I search now and then or just happen to tune in at the right moment like I did today, and find such finer fare for my viewing than the typical dribble of today! This was fun to watch, but it also covered some territory that came up in my previous comments regarding “Feminism” or going beyond the typical norms, even breaking that glass ceiling perhaps when it comes to the battle between men and women which I stated got out of hand in the early 1900’s! Well this story is a true one and was not just very entertaining, but also educational, as it proves I was off a bit on when this tension between men and women got going or heated up! And this Lady Pauline was quite a lady, as well as “one tough cookie” as they say, with a good heart! She was given commendation by even President Abraham Lincoln who has always been one of my all-time favorite iconic historical persons!!! Go figure is someone giving me a kick or something? Sorry Honest Abe if I spoke out of turn!

    Sister I am so moved by what happened it really warms my heart and brings a tear to my eyes because after watching this old TV episode I plugged in Abraham Lincoln to do a search of my Word Press files and “lo and behold” right at the top of the listings was this first and then third suggestions, and when I read them again I found much to contemplate, such beautiful Scriptures as well that I pointed out in these writings.
    I know you are way too busy, but at least for now if you have this put aside maybe when there is a bit of time down the road to review them, and of course that TV story about Pauline which I’m sure you will enjoy; any thoughts would be
    greatly appreciated! I mean it when I say, I’m not anticipating any of this anytime soon, so whenever is wonderful!

    http://lawrencemorra.com/2022/09/08/divine-providence-and-gods-will-2/

    http://lawrencemorra.com/2021/11/28/before-thanksgiving-fades-into-memory-hear-the-words-of-abraham-lincoln/

    Thank you.
    God bless you and yours.
    Brother-in-Christ Jesus,
    Lawrence

    The Wooing of Perilous Pauline
    “Considered the most beautiful heroine of the Old West”

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    “Pauline Cushman (born Harriet Wood, 1833-1893) was an American actress and a spy for the Union Army during the American Civil War; she is considered one of the most successful Civil War spies. She was awarded the rank of brevet major by General James A. Garfield, and made an honorary major by President Abraham Lincoln and became known as “Miss Major Pauline Cushman.”

    In 1879, she met Jere Fryer and moved to Casa Grande, Arizona Territory, where they married (her third husband) and operated a hotel and livery stable. Jere Fryer became the sheriff of Pinal County. Their adopted daughter, Emma, died on 17 Apr 1888 of a seizure at 6 years old. As a result, the Fryers separated in 1890.

    During her final years, Pauline lived in poverty and was disabled due to rheumatism and arthritis. She developed an addiction to pain medication and overdosed on morphine on 2 Dec 1893.”
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0556903/

    Sorry but I just remembered I said how I would consider sending another link earlier, and so seeing as I just sent you all of that, here is just one other link that came up today in my commentaries from past writings. There were a few other links and some excerpts but I figure I should quit while I’m ahead with all of these long comments! I hope I’ve actually shared the most important information to do some good.
    Thank you for all your consideration!
    God bless!

    https://lawrencemorra.com/2022/08/17/why-are-we-here-is-it-worth-being-born-2/

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